During your time as a podcaster, you are probably going to have to explain a complex topic or story. Even with years of podcasting experience, this can be really difficult to do in an audio format.

Luckily, on this week’s episode of Grow The Show, we have a podcasting legend here to help us learn how to tell incredible, intricate stories.

Robert Smith is a professor at Columbia University and the longtime host of one of NPR’s Planet Money. Today he’s going to teach us how he and his expert team put together an amazing, easy-to-understand show.

If you’re ready to learn how to turn your complex and nuanced discussions into hilarious binge-worthy podcast episodes, then be sure to listen to this episode!